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F1 News topic 2013-09-12 06:28:32  
Hello fans of the f1 world.

you got any hot news of the F1 from now and years to come ? why not add them here, then we can chat about it
so at this i am starting it off with some big news for 2014

Kimi Raikkonen will return to Ferrari to join Fernando Alonso from 2014, the team has confirmed.
Ferrari's official announcement of a two-year deal confirms a move that had seemed increasingly inevitable in recent days.
Raikkonen was in the running for the second Red Bull seat alongside Sebastian Vettel, but the champion squad chose its protege Daniel Ricciardo as Mark Webber's replacement instead.
It then seemed most likely that Raikkonen would remain at current squad Lotus for a third season.
But assurances from the team about its future investment and technical packages were crucial to that deal, and Lotus was not yet in a position to provide those.
Raikkonen's Ferrari years in pictures
With Felipe Massa announcing on Tuesday night that he would leave Ferrari at the end of this season after eight years, and Raikkonen's rival candidate Nico Hulkenberg informed on Wednesday morning that he would not be required, the 2007 world champion's return to the Scuderia was sealed.
Raikkonen previously drove for Ferrari from 2007-09.
He came from behind to deny McLaren duo Lewis Hamilton and Fernando Alonso the title in his first season in red, but had to play second fiddle to team-mate Massa's championship push in 2008.
From the archive: what happened to Raikkonen in 2008?
After a disappointing 2009 campaign, Raikkonen left Ferrari and Formula 1 for a career in the World Rally Championship.
This proved unsuccessful, and having dabbled with NASCAR Truck racing and tested Peugeot's Le Mans car, he headed back to F1 with Lotus last year.
An immediate frontrunner back in single-seaters, Raikkonen has been among Vettel's main opposition since his return.
RAIKKONEN'S FERRARI STATS

2007 2008 2009
Wins 6 2 1
Poles 3 2 0
Champ pos 1st 3rd 6th
Points 110 75 48
Last edited by WRAITH, 2013-09-12 06:30:14
TM CLOSED BETA TESTER
Location: GB
2013-09-12 13:47:53  
Räikkönen left Ferrari when Santander payed him out, not because he wanted it to much really. However, it was good to have a break, as the comeback-Kimi has more experience now :) Will be nice to see him in Ferrari again, even though Lotus has been a decent car also, especially due to that sick point-combo.

I'm still a bit sad about that how Kimi's McLaren always failed during his old seasons, he was really close to get the championship title already in 2003 and 2005, but the car broke down so many times.. :/

Here is the most depressing moment ever in F1 maybe :d
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw-USwauS9s
Beetle Racer
Location: FI
2013-09-12 14:23:25  
Maybe sad for you wormi 8-|
Truth is, what Raikkonen needs to win is a car that doesn't break down, because in terms of being fast with what he's given, he's top notch.
The Green Dude
Location: ES
2013-09-13 09:42:16  
Lotus Kimi shame he as left i would have loved to see them come back in the future and be as good as they where
i think Kimi could have done it....Remember Red Bull they where No body 1 year, look at them now..well vettle as helped out, lol
Put Vettle in a lotus, but as lotus got the money, Do not think so. he claims he is the best and not the car !
Last edited by WRAITH, 2013-09-13 09:43:20
TM CLOSED BETA TESTER
Location: GB
2013-09-13 14:59:08  
Do you really mean to tell me Vettel is the fastest driver? Like, with the same car? Yeah, no. Put Vettel in the Ferrari and we'll say "well damn, Massa wasn't so useless after all".
The Green Dude
Location: ES
2013-09-13 17:18:57  
I have to ask something about R.Grosjean. Why everytime he do something (for example just tuch someone), he always have penalty and other driver do that and they have nothing ?! :@
I think the FIA hate Grosjean. :'(
Trying Unique Idea
Moderator
Location: CA
2013-09-13 22:06:20  
Romain does have a reputation of being reckless that predates his F1 entrance. And having only one race director makes subjectivity much easier to influence a decision.
The Green Dude
Location: ES
2013-09-15 00:44:11  
I think Vettel is one of the best for sure. He won on Toro Rosso, did well on BMW and has dominated Webber who has been a driver on RedBull. I think that Vettel, Hamilton, Alonso and Räikkönen are the four best drivers in F1 at the moment, not in any order though.
Beetle Racer
Location: FI
2013-09-15 03:59:01  
He won one particular race on the Toro Rosso, raining in Monza, when the Toro Rosso was just a Ferrari powered version of the Red Bull and starting from the pole position. That year Toro Rosso did better than Red Bull in the manufacturers' Standings. He didn't do better than his teammate in BMW, where he was the test driver. And ever since Webber was robbed the World Championship in 2010 because Red Bull wanted Vettel to take it home, there hasn't been a single moment where Webber and Vettel were treated the same way. So your point doesn't hold up to facts.

Of course he's a good driver, it's the F1, they all are. But comparing him to Alonso, who won races on the 2007 Renault, which was a car to finish at about 20th out of 18 cars, is a bit of a stretch to me. Just like Massa, or Paul Di Resta, or Nico Hulkenberg. They simply don't have the luck to have a car that's so superior to the rest of the cars that it can have a destroyed exhaust pipe, dents on the side panels and keep hitting the walls and still be a second faster than any other car without even having to give everything they have (Yas Marina 2012). Kinda like Jenson Button's world championship, only that at least he had the limitation of having to bring the car home because there were no spare parts to fix it in case of crash - Red Bull Racing doesn't have that problem.
The Green Dude
Location: ES
2013-09-16 10:14:04  
Alonso on 2007's Renault, he drove McLaren that year :p He won twice with Renault on 2008, but the first one was due to the crash of Nelson Piquet jr, his teammate, and that was a planned crash. Even though Alonso probably hadn't planned that by himself (Briatore did) I lost a lot respect towards him that day. And I don't know if that car was so bad as Piquet also managed to take one 2nd slot that year. Second win of Alonso was from 4th on starting grid, that should be a legit win though.

So, it depends on what details you want to remember and what to forget. I remember both good and bad results of those two amazing drivers.
Last edited by wormi, 2013-09-16 10:16:48
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